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Alternative ending to the Pilot #4471
06/01/13 07:06 PM
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What would your alternative ending of the Pilot movie of Airwolf be? Sometimes I have thought: well, Moffet died too easily without a shot fired, but on the otherhand it was quite a rip-roaring ending with Hawke showing his usual measure of mercy to an enemy.

Could there have been another Airwolf? Moffet vs Hawke with Airwolf vs. Airwolf? Or would that have been too formulaic? Or if we're talking helicopters perhaps Moffet could have had a customized chopper instead, along the lines of HX1? Maybe it could have been more simple and less dramatic with Hawke putting a bullet in Moffet at the Red Castle?

I don't know about you but I felt that the psycho doctor was a brilliant character and I would have loved to have seen David Hemmings appear again as Moffet (rather than a virus). Perhaps he appears on occasion to thwart Hawke and Dom (even winning the occasional episode! like John Bradford Horn did) and maybe he only gets his comeuppance in the very final ever episode of Airwolf?


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Charlie] #4472
06/01/13 10:58 PM
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Wondered about that myself when I was watching the show 15 years ago. Yes, "Moffett vs Hawke with Airwolf vs. Airwolf" was my idea of executing it, although I do agree it would be too obvious (or formulaic, as you put it).

I'm pretty sure the writers regretted killing the character so fast and "Moffett's Ghost" was a brilliant idea that allowed to bring him back.

But I think I'd prefer if Moffett just got away in the Pilot; then he could be brought in for a final showdown (and killed then) and AFTER THAT - as the "virus".

Another helicopter? I think not. I've always seen Moffett primarily as a scientist/engineer, not some helicopter buff. Airwolf was just one of the many projects he's probably worked on (Proteus...). It would have to be one of Airwolf earlier prototypes or something.

Appearing "on occassion" would be too comic-book in my opinion.

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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Jan Michal Szulew] #4473
07/01/13 05:28 PM
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That's why John Bradford Horn was invented as the getaway nemesis of the 3rd Season.


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #4481
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I'm a bit of a David Hemmings fan and really I reckon his best character was Moffet. He played a bit of a creepy Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde in the BBC's adeptation from 1981 but really he didn't play many bad guys it seems. After seeing Airwolf I could never get used to him playing a goodie! Many-a time it would have been great to see him pilot the ultimate chopper and blow the hell out of all the good guys!

As far as John Bradford Horn goes I was just waiting, just waiting, for that character's second incarnation played by John Vernon to tell Hawke at some opportune moment "Don't p**s my back and tell me it's raining" (anyone who has seen his character in Clint Eastwood's The Outlaw Josey Wales will understand that one!)

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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Charlie] #4483
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Although I like how it ended, I do wish Moffet would've appeared at least one more time in person. If I had it my way, I would've had String and Moffet go at it hand to hand, not in Airwolf, it would be more emotionally invested that way: having String really look into his enemy's eyes during the final moments.

Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Wolf873] #4484
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I would love to have seen Moffet as a recurring character, but then the emotionally charged ending to the Pilot probably played it the right way with true revenge and retribution for Gabrielle.

It was really about setting up the final scene in the TV version of the Pilot episode anyway and Hawke's on-going reason for his solemnity.

Moffet was a brilliant character development device on Don's part.


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #4486
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It was a shame that there could have been no doubt at all to Moffet's death: blown to bits! Sadly, there's no way he could ever have come back. Hemmings must have really enjoyed this psycho but brilliant doctor role. Moffet is mentioned a lot in all three series and I think it is testament to the way Hemmings played him. He's quite different to the creator of Blue Thunder!

Coming back as a virus was a brilliant, brilliant plot device. The end of "Moffet's Ghost" gave a little suggestion that perhaps, just perhaps, the virus could return. Would have been great to have seen it return in a later episode in series 3, instead of that dross called "Tracks"!


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Charlie] #4487
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Tracks was okay, bearing in mind that we had season 4 low budget and no flying Airwolf around the corner. I still maintain that if the original Airwolf was retained then the show could have continued for many years, even in Canada with Barry Van Dyke and Anthony Sherwood.

Often the best Airwolf episodes utilised the Airwolf helicopter for a short burst at the end. Often the build up and the vulnerability of the characters pitted against their oponents on a level playing field added to the suspense. For example, in Ground Zero of season 4 the episode was brilliantly written with Takeshi Yahara seemingly invincible all the way through until the final aerial battle. Barry Van Dyke played the role as good as Kan Michael Vinecnt would have done, if not better!

Moffets Ghost to re-apper in the first episode of Blackjack could have explained the new look of Airwolf's onboard computer and technology in the lair. Also, if Blackjack had been made into a full 2 hour movie with Jan Michael Vincent and Ernest Borgnine having a full final appearance battling to rescue Singen then the changeover of cast could have worked very well.If Colonel Bouchard had worked with Moffett and knew how to engage Moffetts Virus then this could have been a superb season 4 opener. Alas, they had little money in the budget and no flying Airwolf!

Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: GregWolf] #4498
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Just a thought. How good was Moffet the pilot? How much was it down to Airwolf's technology and his skill? At the Red Star test site he made short work of Soviet missiles, escaped US airspace, then destroyed three French mirages over Chad. Supercopter Airwolf? Super pilot Moffet? Or a bit of both!


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Charlie] #4595
11/10/13 07:20 PM
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Interesting question. I think the question of Moffet's demise should have been left a mystery. It allows a bit of closure, but still has the possibility of a return. I hate that so many of our Airwolf heroes have passed away, including David Hemmings who, as Dr. Moffet, was to me an anti-hero.


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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: GregWolf] #4603
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Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Charlie] #4751
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An interesting point came up in discussion about this just last night.

What would have happened if Gabrielle had survived? How would that have changed the dynamic of the series?

I postulated that he would have returned the chopper and retired back to his cabin.

As a counter the idea was put forth that he still confiscates the chopper and his relationship with her is complicated by her working for The FIRM (having to be loyal to them, loyal/sympathetic to him and all the other complications that entails.)

My take on that is, her death was vital to creating motive and defining the character of Hawke and the show wouldn't have worked any other way.

Re: Alternative ending to the Pilot [Re: Spud_Wrench] #4752
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I would agree with the Counter.

Gabrielle was nothing to do with original "deal" though. It was about leverage for St John.


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