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Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps #3474
28/09/09 12:22 AM
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An interesting little article here on the use of computers in this important 2nd Season episode:

MOFFETT'S GHOST
http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=230

FIRESTORM
http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=229

Same on in CONDEMNED
http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=231

Funnily enough later used on 'STREET HAWK'
http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=41

But used 4 years before on 'BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25th CENTURY'
http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=238


And let's not forget about Dom's 'Convergent Workslate' inside Airwolf itself. http://www.computercloset.org/ConvergentTechnologiesWorkSlate.htm

What other uses of computers were there in Airwolf, and what do you think of it all nowdays that the computers we're all using are thousands of times more powerful than back then?


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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #3477
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actually season 4 had a lot more computer usage the mock up of airwolf had a computer keyboard where the pilot copilot sat and then there was the lairs computers and the company computer systems i mean it really made an impact on airwolf being able to do certain things like using the laser and hands free helmet control but it did have its drawbacks with regard to being able to detect lifeforms in buildings that were shielded and such

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: airwolf987654321] #3479
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There is no Season 4...that was all a bad dream....


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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #3482
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basher Agree no season 4

But actually looking at the cd-rom that Airwolf had remember the 'laser discs' size of an old LP!

Airwolf was and really still is 'cutting edge' we can watch it today and say 25 years on yep record to dvd not a problem!

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: airwolf987654321] #3484
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Originally Posted by airwolf987654321
actually season 4 had a lot more computer usage


*eye begins to twitch*

THERE. WAS. NO. SEASON. FOUR.

Last edited by Mike; 28/09/09 01:54 PM.

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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: airwolf987654321] #3504
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Originally Posted by airwolf987654321
actually season 4 had a lot more computer usage the mock up of airwolf had a computer keyboard where the pilot copilot sat and then there was the lairs computers and the company computer systems i mean it really made an impact on airwolf being able to do certain things like using the laser and hands free helmet control but it did have its drawbacks with regard to being able to detect lifeforms in buildings that were shielded and such

And Androids! Don't forget Malduke. wink

I keep seeing TV shows today about modern-day "lifelike" robots and I wonder how far away we are from the likes of Malduke.

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Great 80s TV] #3506
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Well, there's the "computer" with the big blue X on the screen at 32:22 in "Echos from the Past." It's actually a video mixing board setup but looks like a digital display.



And who could forget Larry Mason's keyboard and floppy drive?



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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: airwolf987654321] #3511
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Originally Posted by airwolf987654321
actually season 4 had a lot more computer usage the mock up of airwolf had a computer keyboard where the pilot copilot sat and then there was the lairs computers and the company computer systems i mean it really made an impact on airwolf being able to do certain things like using the laser and hands free helmet control but it did have its drawbacks with regard to being able to detect lifeforms in buildings that were shielded and such


Yep, they used Airwolf's equipment more extensively which was a plus imo. The way they went about interacting with it (computers) seemed more real to me than how it was used before. I never got used to the lair computer setup though, it was just too much, I mean little bit might have been fine but they went for the Bat-Cave look instead basher.

I guess since there was no secret anymore between the pilots and the FIRM/ Company, they got the cave all rigged up as the base for their operations. Furthermore, I think season 4 brought back one more thing beside international espionage stories, which was this unseen attention on Airwolf which was absent in Season 2 and 3, I don't know how else to explain it.

However, I wonder how powerful were those Airwolf computers, within the context of the show. I know they are weak compared to what we have now. Still, I think with today's technology, Airwolf could do wonders and be the ultimate stealth machine, within fictitious realm of course cool.

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Wolf873] #3516
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One of the more interesting aspects was Jason Locke using a laptop in the episode "Rogue Warrior".

The thing was as big as a suitcase, lol.

It was one of the first times I ever remember seeing a laptop on TV.


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Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: St. John Hawke] #3521
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I think one of the coolest things was the film-grabs "photographic printer" that Hawke had in his cabin from 'Random Target' onwards (didn't they also use it in 'Airwolf II' from memory?). Obviously, in reality that reprographics technology just didn't exist back then, and the machine was just a glorified roller with the photos pre-printed and probably pushed out by a stage hand or something.

Nowadays with new digital photo-booths (pioneered by Kodak only in the early Noughties) this is easy to do, but wow, that was SO far ahead of its time and being in the industry myself I know how cool it was to see that being used in 1984 (probably another Andrew Probert idea -- like using CD-R/DVD-R to record video onto).

*NO* other show in its day had Futurologist predictions as perfect as Andrew made on Airwolf! He's such a visionary (and one of my professional/creative heroes -- and the main reason I'm a graphic designer by profession).


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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #3558
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Originally Posted by Mark J.Cairns
I think one of the coolest things was the film-grabs "photographic printer" that Hawke had in his cabin from 'Random Target' onwards (didn't they also use it in 'Airwolf II' from memory?). Obviously, in reality that reprographics technology just didn't exist back then, and the machine was just a glorified roller with the photos pre-printed and probably pushed out by a stage hand or something.

Nowadays with new digital photo-booths (pioneered by Kodak only in the early Noughties) this is easy to do, but wow, that was SO far ahead of its time and being in the industry myself I know how cool it was to see that being used in 1984 (probably another Andrew Probert idea -- like using CD-R/DVD-R to record video onto).

*NO* other show in its day had Futurologist predictions as perfect as Andrew made on Airwolf! He's such a visionary (and one of my professional/creative heroes -- and the main reason I'm a graphic designer by profession).

I remember loving that printing machine when I first saw it. IIRC "Knight Rider" was still using black & white dot-matrix printing.

Today you can carry your printer with you. I recently got hold of one of those "PoGo" printers - no ink, no wires, and fits in your pocket. Snap your picture, and print. Airwolf would have been proud! thumbs

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Great 80s TV] #3600
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Heck, I can still remember when one of KITTs displays in Knight Rider was an Intellivision racing program (not the same episode that Michael was playing the race program BTW but a different one). Indeed Airwolf set the bar high. Besides, it was the first show I think that had a video message on a disk in Moffett's Ghost (LONG before Apple came up with Quicktime file compression formats for video!).

Now with Probert's involvement, anyone know if he had any say in the set design? Reason being is to me Santini's station I think felt a little more exotic and utilitarian in Season 1 then it did in 2 (such as those triangular red and green buttons on the lower console). Season 2's stuff to me looked a bit more Knight Riderish push button. Granted some stuff about the season 2-3 station I liked, but I still think the first season version looked a little better. I think part of that was due to it being closer to Probert's original design.

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: JMChladek] #3601
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Yup, it was Andrew Probert that was tasked to come up with the 2nd Season EDCC, and was the first person to use CD-R to "record" video as well during the 2nd Season. Total visionary.


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Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #3619
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we had a commdore 128 D was 10 times the price of my dual
core and no internet
motorola is from israel i am a motorola fan
so airwolf is modern helicopter with old computers ?
i remeber kitt and the truck.

Re: Starring the computer - MOFFETT'S GHOST and other Eps [Re: Mark J.Cairns] #3651
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How easy it is to forget that well into the early 90's a CD-ROM had more data capacity than the average hard drive. For example, by 1991 a typical computer had a single-speed CD-ROM drive and a 210-megabyte HDD (not to mention 2 - 4mb of RAM). You'd buy a CD-ROM drive with a removable caddy instead of a slide-out tray just to reduce the seek time from 600ms to around 300. So, Mr. Probert saw the potential of the format at a very early time.

However, wasn't it ironic that the video disc Marella hands Dominic in "Moffett's Ghost" was a 5 1/4" floppy.


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